A future advise to my kids

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I recently tweeted the following

No one has a logical objection to saving and starting as early as possible in life. If you understand the power of compounding, you will not argue against this point.

The most common objection is against investing in index funds. A lot of people think its an admission of defeat if you go the route of index funds, especially when it so easy to do better than the market

Is it so easy to beat the index?

A lot of people look at the recent experience and conclude that beating the market will be easy going forward. In reaching this conclusion, they are ignoring some obvious points

  • Indian markets similar to global markets continue to get more transparent and hence more efficient. The more efficient a market, the harder it is to beat the index
  • At the height of the bull market in 2017, a lot of people thought anything less than a 40% CAGR was for losers. That expectation has a lot of arrogance built into it. If the overall market is going to deliver around 14-15% over a long period of time, then the only way an individual can achieve such high returns is by being a far superior investor. A few people may turnout to be exceptional. However, the ex-ante probability of that is usually low
  • Most investors ignore the aspect of luck. A lot of new investors started investing in the 2010-2013 period when small and mid cap valuations were at a decade low. We will get the same tailwind in the future.

We are already seeing the level of excess returns over the index compress in several markets such as the US due to rising competition. I think the same is happening in India. This is also called the red queen effect and we are seeing this in other competitive fields such as sports, business, marketing etc too.

Is it worth the effort?

Let’s assume that you work hard and do manage to beat the index. At this point, I would like to reference this post I wrote on the ROI of such an effort. Anyone who decides to become an active investor has to divert time from either full time work or from some other personal activities to make this extra return.

I have laid the math in the table below and you can play with the numbers in terms of your opportunity cost (salary, time with family or any other metric). There is no standard formulae to evaluate the ROI – this is something personal and only you can answer it. However, if you are in this only for the money, then a valid metric for comparison is your current hourly rate in terms of a full time job.

The question to answer is – When will the per hour wage from ‘active investing’ exceed the wage from doing a full time job?

A tough way to make easy money

As can be seen from the table above, the break even usually happens after 8-10 years of active investing. Even if you are great investor – compounding at 20%+ rate which very few investors or mutual funds achieve, the returns are back ended and come much later in life.

Now some folks will point to Rakesh Jhunjhunwala or warren Buffett or some such investor who have become famous and very rich through investing. This is the equivalent of someone pointing out one of the superstars in any field (cricket, Movies etc) and justifying their decision.

They are completely oblivious to the hidden evidence – for every Kohli, Aamir khan or any other hugely successful individual, there is large group of people who never made it big. The earnings per hour through active investing clearly show that making money via this route is not an easy way to get rich

Am I being a hypocrite?

One of the thoughts in your mind must be – This guy has been investing actively and is turning around and recommending others not do it. He is being a hypocrite as he wants to reduce his own competition.

I can assure you that the number of professional and individual investors getting attracted to market is very high and this post will make no difference to that. The rewards of success (or the allure) in this field is high enough to keep attracting new entrants.

As I have shared in the past, if I look back at the 20 years of my investing career, the economic (key word) ROI of the time spent on investing and writing this blog would be far less than a full time job. The only reason I have done this is because I have always loved the process and would do it even if I was not being paid for it (Which is true for this blog anyway).

Active investing is an irrational decision

If you agree with my argument that from an economic standpoint a career of investing actively in the market does not make sense, then saving early and investing via other instruments (mutual funds, ETF etc) is the way to go.

The above point does not mean that you don’t become financially literate. I think that is a must and should be made mandatory in schools. We should all have the minimum knowledge of personal finance to make sensible decisions. This would require only couple of hours a month. Once you have done that, you can use the rest of your time on other pursuits. That was the key point behind the above tweet

Unless you invest for a living (in financial services industry), I think investing directly in the market is not a rational decision. A lot of people do for the entertainment or bragging rights and in the end hurt themselves financially. People who are truly successful in it are those who love the process and don’t care only about the returns. If you are one of those folks, then welcome to my world and please ignore this post.

For others who are in it only for the money – find an area you truly love and get good at it. You will make a very good living at it and enjoy the process. The surplus income you make should then be invested in index funds. That’s what I am going to advise my kids.

7 comments

  • Sir, What is loving the process in investing. Please give an example.
    Apologies if this question sounds very stupid.
    I am very very new in investing and learning.

  • Hi prashant
    loving the process means the work of analysing a company, understanding the sector, learning how to read financial statement, reading actual financial statements, learning valuation, looking for new ideas etc. its all the steps in learning how to invest and then going through the process of searching and analysing new ideas

    hope this helps

  • Enjoyed this article

    Kindly tell name of a good index fund for nifty next 50 who are honest fund houses like ppfas .else will u advise any ETF

  • Great Article, I have an 8 year old and I keep thinking how to ensure I teach him saving & investing, one of the method I follow is Marshmallow experiment, not sure if there are others, can you share any other methods and techniques for kids.

  • Hello Rohit
    How do you arrive at those numbers for per hr salary from investing right from year one?

    Regards

  • its a random number for illustration. you can use whatever number makes sense to you

  • Great Article, I have an 8 year old and I keep thinking how to ensure I teach him saving & investing, one of the method I follow is Marshmallow experiment, not sure if there are others, can you share any other methods and techniques for kids.

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