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A Go/No Go decision

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I was reading an interview (or maybe annual meeting transcript) of warren buffet sometime back and he was asked about the discount rate he uses in the DCF (discounted cash flow) calculations.

He indicated that he uses the long term treasury risk free rate. In addition, for him a decision to buy is really a go/No go decision. If he can understand the company, its economics and predict its future for 10 years or more, and if the value is screaming at him, he goes ahead. Otherwise he passes.

I have changed my decision process after reading the above comment because it makes sense for a small investor like me. If I can understand the economics of a company (which rules out a huge number as my circle of competence is small) and if the decision is a slam dunk , I go ahead and commit my money. Else I pass. Now that has resulted in my leaving a lot of companies which were close and later did very well in terms of stock price. But in the end I would rather be sure of my decision than tweak my DCF model, fiddle with my discount rate and build hypothetical assumptions of good growth and at the first downward blip , not have the confidence to hold on to the stock.

The above go/No go approach has resulted in my leaving out pharma companies, a lot of commodity companies etc. But then for a retail investor like me who needs a few good ideas a year and does not have to show a quarterly performance like a fund manager, why take the risk and the heart burn ?

Cannot find much to invest in these days

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Cannot find much to invest !! I typically run screens provided by icicidirect. Most of the companies being thrown up below a PE of 10-11 (I keep a cutoff at 10-11 as I think that would be the approximate value of a company with no growth and returns at cost of capital. So any company having growth and a ROC of greater than Cost of capital would be worth more).

Sample of some companies which came up

– EID parry: In commodity industry (sugar etc) and selling at 16 times peak earning (the screen was wrong and did not consider the 1:5 split.
– Banks: Several banks like Karnataka bank etc came up. Need to check if any banks would have value
– Tata steel, Essar steel, Gujarat ambuja cements – Commodity companies selling in low teens of Peak earnings. Would not be looking at investing at peak / uptrend of business cycle. Also PE is generally a poor indicator for cyclical companies. Generally during downtrends these companies would sport a high PE on depressed earnings and that could be a good time to invest.
– UB holding – A Loss making holding company selling at a CAP of 1100 crores. Tangible assets appear in the range of 300-400 crores. They could have some undervalued assets on balance sheet such as land holdings at cost, Investments in subsidiary companies. Looks unlikely to be worth more than 800-900 crores. I will need to look closely.

Any good ideas ??

How VOIP could impact telecom industry – part 2

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I recently posted my take on an article published in the economist about how VOIP could disrupt the traditional telecom model.

A few days later e-bay bought out skype (a VOIP service which allows users to make calls from their computers to any one in the world for free – and also to regular phone , but for free).

There is a great article on this deal in the economistThe meaning of free speech .

A snippet from the article below

His vision for Skype, by contrast, is to become the world’s biggest and best platform for all communications—text, voice or video—from any internet-connected device, whether a computer or a mobile phone.
This is every bit as audacious as it sounds. Mr Zennstrom, in general, is a modest man. But his company is only three years old, will probably make only $60m in revenues this year, and will certainly not turn a profit. So it is the fact that his ambition is not nearly as ridiculous as it sounds that should make incumbent telecoms firms everywhere break out in a cold sweat.
That is because Skype can add 150,000 users a day (its current rate) without spending anything on new equipment (users ā€œbringā€ their own computers and internet connections) or marketing (users invite each other). With no marginal cost, Skype can thus afford to maximise the number of its users, knowing that if only some of them start buying its fee-based services—such as SkypeOut, SkypeIn and voicemail—Skype will make money. This adds up to a very unusual business plan.


ā€œWe want to make as little money as possible per user,ā€ says Mr Zennstrom, because ā€œwe don’t have any cost per user, but we want a lot of them.ā€ This is the exact opposite of the traditional business model in the telecoms industry, which is based on maximising the average revenue per user, or ARPU. And that has only one logical consequence. According to Rich Tehrani, the founder of Internet Telephony, a magazine devoted to the subject, Skype and services like it are leading inexorably to a future in which all voice communication, near or far, will be free.


And more –

Even before VOIP makes 100% of telephone calls in the world completely free (which may take many years), it utterly ruins the pricing models of the telecoms industry. Factors such as the distance between the callers or the duration of a call, the key determinants of cost today, are simply irrelevant with VOIP. Vonage already lets its customers choose telephone numbers in San Francisco, New York or London, no matter where they live. A Londoner calling the London number is making a ā€œlocalā€ call, even if the Vonage subscriber is picking up the phone in Shanghai. As when checking e-mail on, say, Hotmail, the only thing needed is a broadband-internet connection, but it can be anywhere in the world. Sooner or later, people will discard their unwieldy phone numbers altogether and use names, just as they do with their e-mail addresses, predicts Mr Zennstrom.

Call duration is also becoming irrelevant. ā€œA lot of people open a Skype audio channel and keep it open,ā€ says Mr Zennstrom. After all, it costs nothing. Many people with Apple computers are already accustomed to this. They open an application called iChat, which is a video and voice link, and stay connected to their loved ones far away. Increasingly, members of a family or a business team can stay online throughout the day, escalating from unobtrusive instant-messaging (ā€œCan you talk?ā€) to a conference call, a video call and back to a little icon on their screen.
It is thus altogether wrong to call this phenomenon the end, or death, of telephony. ā€œCalling it the death of telephony suggests people aren’t going to make calls, but they are,ā€ says Sam Paltridge, a telecoms guru at the OECD. ā€œIt’s just the death of the traditional pricing models.ā€ In short, all this is great news for consumers and awful news for telecoms operators. ā€œVOIP will destroy voice revenues faster than most analysts’ models predict,ā€ says Cyrus Mewawalla, an analyst at Westhall Capital. ā€œVoice will very rapidly cease to become a major revenue generator for all telecoms operators, fixed and mobile.ā€


This is likely to hit the indian telecom providers hard. Somehow the valuation of these companies does not seem to be reflecting that. Its possible that it is early days for this technology in india ( we barely have phones , much less internet and broadband ). But i think it will eventually hit the indian telecom providers too ( maybe starting with the international calls where the margins are higher ).

P&G Hygiene & healthcare Q4 net up 203%

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P&G Hygiene just declared great results. I have always liked their business (I used to work in the FMCG industry and have seen their sales organisation closely). The topline growth is encouraging with good growth in the Vicks and Feminine hygiene categories.

As expected, cash flow from business is very good as the expense on the main asset – brands , is expensed through advertising. Fixed asset / Wcap requirements are low ( and asset are being worked more through contract manufacturing for the parent company ). The company has been declaring good dividends for quite some time.

The companies has a very clean balance sheet , just 80 cr worth of Fixed asset and 165 odd cr of WCAP (228 crs being cash , effectively meaning -ve working capital ) for generating almost 500 cr + net income. Net margins are in 15 % range ( compared to 7-9 % for the FMCG industry ). This shows that the company has good pricing power and sustainable competitive advantage and a very lean balance sheet.

The stock is pricey though, selling at a PE of about 30. I have looked at the company in the past but never bought it as it was not comfortable with the management. P&G global has opened a subsidiary which is not listed. P&G hygiene pays royalty to the parent ( whereas the indian shareholder pays for the advertising and brand building ). In addition all new brands are being introduced through the 100 % owned subsidiary.

Difficult to trust the management to be fair to the indian shareholder …they could pull a fast one like the other MNC of taking the company private and leaving the indian minorty shareholders in a lurch. Maybe i am being paranoid , but then there a lot of other companies to invest , so why take chances ..

A good article on the global car industry

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Read this new article on the global car industry on the economist. My take in terms of impact on the indian industry

– The weaking of the global companies like GM, Ford and their suppliers like Delphi etc would be a great positive for the indian auto parts industry as these companies would have to look at further cutting costs to survive. Indian auto part companies are very cost competitive and are rapidly moving up the value chain
– Critical factor for indian auto parts companies would be how rapidly they can scale up and meet the global quality and service standards ( provided they get some support on infrastrucutre ). Also they can avoid cost pressures if they develop the required technology and IP.
– Not been able to come to conclusion on it would impact the domestic car industry…will it be beneficial for maruti, Tata motors etc ??

Is the market overvalued ?

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I have been reading a lot of analysis on the market valuation levels. A few articles are citing that at a PE of 14 – 15 the market is not too overvalued and should give good returns.
On the other hand , some statistics show that market is fairly or overvalued as the ROE for the indian industry is at its peak, Interest rates low, inflation low and the demand robust. As a result we are seeing these PE levels which are at the peak of a cycle and the normalised PE should be close to 17-18.

I find both arguments plausible, but my money is on the overvaluation side. I have become fairly cautious for some time and would be looking at initiating selling if the markets keep rising.

Also the overall market valuations are important if one is invested in index funds or ETF’s. Otherwise rather than concentrating on the market, i am looking at my individual holdings and would start reducing them if they start getting more overvalued (i think some are fairly close to their overvaluation levels)

Although i am not invested in commodity companies, i would look at their valuation levels more closely and would even look at selling them as my thought process is that commodity cycle is at a peak and industry profits are at a cyclical peak (for steel, cement etc ) due to robust demand, high capacity utilisation, low debt and interest level. PE for these companies is very low and i would not base my evaluation on those PE as the earnings are at a cyclical peak. In addition a lot of capacity addition is starting now, for ex: Tata steel seems to have announced a huge capex plan. So i would be wary of putting any money or holding onto commodity companies

Any thoughts ? please share with me

Business model of Ratings agency – Crisil

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I am looking at the financial numbers of crisil. My thinking was that CRISIL and any other rating agency would have a good business model. On looking at the numbers i have been completely blown away.

– Return on networth – 20 % +
– Return on capital employed in business – 80 % (approximate ). The company has about Rs100/share of investment
– Net profit is almost equal to cash flow as a rating agency would not have too much fixed expenses (other than offices which can be bought or leased)
– Not much of working capital requirement (close to zero)
– Net margins of 20% +
– Strong competitive advantage in the form of a strong brand name ( CRISIL or ICRA etc ). Any company wanting to get rated will have to go to these companies …sometimes to all of them ( and i cant think of new companies being able to get into this business easily)
– additional lines of business through these relationships with companies like advisory services, research services etc which provides additional revenue streams.

So if everything is so good , why not buy the stock …?? looked at the price and ofcourse the market is smart enough to recognise a good business. The stock sells at a PE of around 35. So it seems to be a great business available at not a great price. I will give it a pass ..but will continue studying the business model

Impact of High petrol prices

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Have been thinking of how higher petrol prices would affect indian industry. My opinion is that companies like FMCG / IT services / Telecom should not effected much , either due to their inherent pricing ability or because fuel costs are low for them and affect them only indirectly.

The above event should impact oil companies postively ( hopefully they will not go bankrupt). Commodity businesses may get impacted badly if the demand falters and the costs go up. Metals/ Cement / Steel etc could get impacted negatively.

Cant think of the impact on retail / Media and other such industries. They would have some second or third order impact ( less disposable income leading to lower demand ? ) …

I think the bigger impact could be on inflation and interest rates. I would stay away from fixed income funds for some time atleast. Also individuals with variable rate loans could be impacted. Will it impact the housing market …not really sure about it

Pricing strenght – A key indicator of competitive advantage

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I was reading an interview of warren buffett a few days back. He was asked on what kind of businesses he prefers. His replied the ones where he can increase the price of the product ahead of inflation (he gave the example of see’s candies ). He also noted that one should avoid businesses where one has to pray before increasing the price by one cent (he gave the example of berskhire hathway – the textile company where they found it diffcult to increase prices )

The above comment got me thinking. Pricing strength of a business is a very powerful indicator of competitive advantage enjoyed by the business. Think of FMCG companies like HLL, P&G, marico . These companies have been able to increase their prices (although that ability has come down in recent past due to higher competition ). On the other end companies like steel , cement typically can increase prices only when there is supply shortage (which is only for a limited period of time)

I have found the above way of looking at a business a very powerful tool of checking if a business has enduring competitive advantage.

How about telecom companies or IT services companies …their pricing ability does throws up interesting insights ..although i have not been able to come to a conclusion

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